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	<title>Comments on: A Weekend Trip To The Recycling Centre</title>
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		<title>By: PooterGeek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leggo!</title>
		<link>http://www.pootergeek.com/2007/01/a-weekend-trip-to-the-recycling-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-74043</link>
		<dc:creator>PooterGeek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leggo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via things magazine, I discovered an article in the Archinect about how when the people of the virtual community Second Life are given freedom to build whatever they want they recreate suburbia.The author of the piece broadcasts his own prejudices. I hate shopping as well, but I winced at this: [L]ike most utopias, [Second Life] is currently threatened by the all-encompassing allure of shopping. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Via things magazine, I discovered an article in the Archinect about how when the people of the virtual community Second Life are given freedom to build whatever they want they recreate suburbia.The author of the piece broadcasts his own prejudices. I hate shopping as well, but I winced at this: [L]ike most utopias, [Second Life] is currently threatened by the all-encompassing allure of shopping.&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Holyhoses Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holyhoses Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the&nbsp;mention.</p>
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		<title>By: PooterGeek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tim-ba!</title>
		<link>http://www.pootergeek.com/2007/01/a-weekend-trip-to-the-recycling-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-73907</link>
		<dc:creator>PooterGeek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tim-ba!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PooterGeek contains extended scenes of moderate fantasy menace      &#171; A Weekend Trip To The Recycling Centre [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] PooterGeek contains extended scenes of moderate fantasy menace      &laquo; A Weekend Trip To The Recycling Centre&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.pootergeek.com/2007/01/a-weekend-trip-to-the-recycling-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-73900</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! ha!

Nice shorts he has tho&#039;. Ralph Lauren -- is the brand still &#039;of the moment&#039;?

(No gay shorts joking from me  -- yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!&nbsp;ha!</p>
<p>Nice shorts he has tho&#8217;. Ralph Lauren &#8211; is the brand still &#8216;of the&nbsp;moment&#8217;?</p>
<p>(No gay shorts joking from me  &#8211;&nbsp;yet).</p>
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		<title>By: PooterGeek</title>
		<link>http://www.pootergeek.com/2007/01/a-weekend-trip-to-the-recycling-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-73899</link>
		<dc:creator>PooterGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t get me started on Marxists, Will. I only talk to Norman &quot;no mates&quot; Geras because no one else will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on Marxists, Will. I only talk to Norman &#8220;no mates&#8221; Geras because no one else&nbsp;will.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Utopianism/utopias:

&lt;b&gt;We should Unashamedly Embrace Utopia&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;We should be, without hesitation or embarrassment, utopians. At the end of the twentieth century it is the only acceptable political option, morally speaking. I shall not dwell on this. I will merely say that, irrespective of what may have seemed apt hitherto either inside or outside the Marxist tradition, nothing but a utopian goal will now suffice. The realities of our time are morally intolerable. Within the constricted scope of the present piece, I suppose I might try to evoke a little at least of what I am referring to here, with some statistics or an imagery of poverty, destitution and other contemporary calamities- But I do not intend to do even this much. The facts of widespread human privation and those of political oppression and atrocity are available to all who want them. They are unavoidable unless you wilfully shut them out. To those who would suggest that things might be yet worse, one answer is that of course they might be. But another answer is that for too many people they are already quite bad enough; and the sponsors of this type of suggestion are for their part almost always pretty comfortable.&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/us/geras1.htm

There is more than one sort of utopian and more than one sort of anti-utopian.  Those who tend to be most seduced by utopias, *and* more repressive of utopias are not the people that offer a bold vision of a future remade but those that seek to impose a fictitious past on a reluctant present i.e. they are reactionaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re&nbsp;Utopianism/utopias:</p>
<p><b>We should Unashamedly Embrace&nbsp;Utopia</b></p>
<p><i>We should be, without hesitation or embarrassment, utopians. At the end of the twentieth century it is the only acceptable political option, morally speaking. I shall not dwell on this. I will merely say that, irrespective of what may have seemed apt hitherto either inside or outside the Marxist tradition, nothing but a utopian goal will now suffice. The realities of our time are morally intolerable. Within the constricted scope of the present piece, I suppose I might try to evoke a little at least of what I am referring to here, with some statistics or an imagery of poverty, destitution and other contemporary calamities- But I do not intend to do even this much. The facts of widespread human privation and those of political oppression and atrocity are available to all who want them. They are unavoidable unless you wilfully shut them out. To those who would suggest that things might be yet worse, one answer is that of course they might be. But another answer is that for too many people they are already quite bad enough; and the sponsors of this type of suggestion are for their part almost always pretty comfortable.</i><br />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/us/geras1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/us/geras1.htm</a></p>
<p>There is more than one sort of utopian and more than one sort of anti-utopian.  Those who tend to be most seduced by utopias, *and* more repressive of utopias are not the people that offer a bold vision of a future remade but those that seek to impose a fictitious past on a reluctant present i.e. they are&nbsp;reactionaries.</p>
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